Poll: The Crab's Assault

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What will be the consequences of the Crab Clan's attempt to seize Nezumi lands?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:03 pm

Hida recognizes the political precariousness of the situation. Consulting with his more politically-minded siblings yields a surprising compromise. The Crab maintain their presence in the lands they initially planned to take, instead acting as guards for the Nezumi holdings there with some limited fortifications and resources there to maintain them. Many builders are assigned to the area also to help Nezumi reconstruction. Anjing Xia is promoted to provincial governor, with a Nezumi Rememberer advisor, who has the right to alter or refuse any decisions that might affect her people.
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The Crab manage to hold onto their new lands even in the face of a Nezumi siege, with the support of Hida as the expert in such matters. Imperial heralds soon arrive, however, carrying Shiba’s declaration that the fighting ends and the Crab return the Nezumi lands to their original holders. Doji is offended by her brother’s shaming of her husband by going against his promises, and the Crab soon find, despite creating a courtier school, that they have been functionally shut out of any court of consequence, and thus have no word in any major decision making. This limits trade, as well, and the Crab soon find themselves facing famine in the following years.
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The Crab are successful in their bid for the new land, with the Nezumi indeed being somewhat disorganized despite their numbers. However, Shiba issues a formal censure against the Crab, and orders their new borders drawn back to the northernmost range of the Twilight mountains. Still a large addition, but less offensive to their neighbors. Hida accepts the censure and agrees. However, many of his former Seidou followers are offended and mount a revolt, which results in them getting exiled with no supplies to the Islands of Spice and Silk.
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Shiba commands that Hida and the Crab end their assault on the Nezumi, informing him of the treaties in progress. Hida grudgingly acknowledges his brother’s command, but argues for the security of the Empire. Shiba, recognizing that sharing a border with their allies may not be and ideal position for his protection and defense oriented brother, orders that the Crab relocate to a broad strip of land along the northern border, beyond which the tribes who had refused the Kami’s rule began to gather.
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Rather than accept his brother’s word on the matter, Hida believes he is in the right with his superior understanding of defense and Anjing Xia’s first hand descriptions. However, he can’t leave the defensive effort – outnumbered as his Clan is, they need him to succeed in holding the territory they are trying to keep. Shiba, recognizing a potential threat to the Empire in allowing this defiance go on, calls on Akodo, who devises a pincer attack on his brother’s forces. The Crab are defeated, and Hida’s open defiance leads to the Clan as a whole being exiled west into the Burning Sands.
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Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Canary » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:03 pm

The Crab Clan followed Anjing Xia’s advice. While discussions were beginning with regard to making the treaties with the Nezumi that Nanzi promised, the Crab began moving in on the northernmost territories of the Nezumi. Weakened as they had been by the war with the Shadowlands and much of the Crab carrying the Seidou Tribe’s grudge against them, the Crab believed that it wouldn’t be too much trouble or controversy to take some of the territory for their fledgling Clan.

They proved to be very wrong. In the week that followed, a force of nearly 10,000 Nezumi and their advanced weapons fell on the Crab, employing tactics honed against the Shadowlands. They also alerted their diplomat in the Imperial palace to the situation, and the Emperor quickly demanded that a stop be put to the fighting. Win or lose, there will be consequences to the Crab's actions.

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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Bayushi Umeno » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:36 am

I find 4 quite intriguing.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Nanzi » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:38 am

Well that was an easy choice.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Nozomi » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:39 am

Bayushi Umeno wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:36 am
I find 4 quite intriguing.
Good. I'm not the only one.
So, I wasn't a fan of Xia's continuing the assault specifically on allied lands rather than unclaimed lands available and ripe for the plucking. But, this has the possibility of a shakeup in clan locations. And... if the Festering Pit isn't a thing and that land is eventually cleansed of its taint, then there's a good, solid reason for the Crab to be at another of the potential border issues.

So, putting them up north and another clan to mind the allies' border militarily just in case could potentially shift 4 different clans around a bit, and give us some variation in the map while avoiding permanently harming one of my favorite clans.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Ch’chit T’kkiri » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:42 am

Probably a good idea to send the smelly Seidou to the other side of the Empire from the rats.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Nozomi » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:44 am

Ch’chit T’kkiri wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:42 am
Probably a good idea to send the smelly Seidou to the other side of the Empire from the rats.
Might increase the remote possibility that the Nezumi Empire and the Human Empire are able to politely co-exist in a century or two...
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Hanzou » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:30 am

If it weren't for Ryoshun's grave, I'd be all for having the Crab and the Bat trade places.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Ch’chit T’kkiri » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:54 am

Stag are probably a decent choice. Dawei is a friend. Rats helped Hantei. They get to be neighbors to their buddies the Crane. And the IH Non-Human based combatant school for Stag could maybe be a thing. They are prepared for the worst; if were relations with rats to sour... they’d be a decent choice to protect the Empire.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Togashi Saruko » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:03 am

Hey, Crab can't come up here to the North where I'm making stuff! :evil:
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Togashi Nadare » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:16 am

I liked the one with some exiles to the Islands. Sea Turtle Clan!
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Jiyo Sora » Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:43 am

Man, I am LIKING these choices, because only the most nicey-nice of them is even a little dull...

Having come into the CCG during the War of Dark Fire, I think I'm gonna vote in favor of letting the Crab make good on what one of them told the Dragon: "You should have built a wall."

Besides. With a friendly Nezumi buffer zone to the south... we might well want the defense specialists on the more porous border currently guarded by a couple of very sparsely populated clans.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Miyako » Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:45 am

I think especially with the portal now closed there are some interesting opportunities for substitute threats - under #4, truly massive Yobanjin hordes requiring a northbound version of the Carpenter Wall could certainly fit... :)
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Shinjo Koyama » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:00 am

I won't vote on an option that harms the independent tribesmen, so the only viable alternative gets it.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Jin » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:39 am

I enjoy the shuffling of the Empire and the not antagonizing the Nezumi more than necessary so there we go.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Anjing Xia » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:25 pm

This makes things much easier. While I don't imagine I'll be returning to the world of Rat-Rat (outside of maybe a FATAL oneshot) my friends and I have enjoyed seeing and discussing the fascinating characters, plots and settings that have been created here.
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Wu » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:25 pm

Relocating so many people is not a wise choice
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Re: Poll: The Crab's Assault

Post by Kyosei of the Isawa » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:08 pm

I wonder who will now take Hida's various half-finished castles and fortresses...
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