[D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

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[D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Tue May 26, 2020 2:54 am

Aono and Miuna gathered around one of the fires, sitting near each other, wrapped up in blankets to keep the cold at bay. They waited patiently to see who would show up for their second foray into the mysteries of non verbal communication. Miuna sneezed. She did not enjoy all the cold wetness.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Jiyo Ayumu » Tue May 26, 2020 3:12 am

Ayumu approached, signed a salutation, and sat quietly.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Miyako » Tue May 26, 2020 5:45 am

Miyako arrived at the campfire for the next signing lesson, her blanket wrapped around her to keep her warm before she sat down. She signed 'hello' and 'how are you' as she learned yesterday to the two Shinjo ladies as well as to Ayumu. "If it is not too much trouble, might we start with just a quick refresher for a few minutes? If only so that I might ensure that I remembered things correctly," she asked pleasantly as she scooched closer to the fire.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Tue May 26, 2020 6:17 am

Jiyo Ayumu wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:12 am
Ayumu approached, signed a salutation, and sat quietly.
Miuna and Aono sign Salutations to both Ayumu and Miyako.
Miyako wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 5:45 am
Miyako arrived at the campfire for the next signing lesson, her blanket wrapped around her to keep her warm before she sat down. She signed 'hello' and 'how are you' as she learned yesterday to the two Shinjo ladies as well as to Ayumu. "If it is not too much trouble, might we start with just a quick refresher for a few minutes? If only so that I might ensure that I remembered things correctly," she asked pleasantly as she scooched closer to the fire.
Aono spoke softly, signing as usual for the duration of the lesson. "Of course, Miyako. We covered many things during the first lesson that I was going to present during this lesson so we will spend the majority of our time tonight practicing and trying to form statements and questions." She shivered and Miuna sneezed again. "This weather is very inconvenient for trying to teach using your hands." She laughed a bit, warming her hands against the glow of the campfire.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Inga » Tue May 26, 2020 6:43 am

Inga came for another lesson. The girl waved hello to the two teachers and took a seat. She watched the people slowly arrive at the 'classroom' she practiced some of the previous signs.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Hanzou » Tue May 26, 2020 6:46 am

Hanzou arrived, greeting everyone with a wave and a smile as he sat down.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Togashi Saruko » Tue May 26, 2020 6:47 am

The Dragon woman showed up for another lesson. Always be learning!

Giving a wave in greeting, she sat down with the others. She managed to sign "hello".

"Good evening, everyone."
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Ninube » Tue May 26, 2020 8:14 am

Ninube came again. "Hello." She tried to sign hello. She instead signed "mountain."
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Tue May 26, 2020 9:03 am

The sisters signed Salutations to Inga and Hanzou when they arrived. Miuna was happy to see Hanzou attending the class as he was not present for the first one.
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The Dragon woman showed up for another lesson. Always be learning!

Giving a wave in greeting, she sat down with the others. She managed to sign "hello".

"Good evening, everyone."

Miuna and Aono bowed to Saruko and Miuna beamed at her. So far she had met two Kami spouses and liked them both. Hantei Kinsen, with her delicious food that she was pretty sure Ayumu was still angry about, and Togashi Saruko, the mistress of story telling.

The women welcome Ninube before beginning.

"Good evening, and thank you all for coming. Before we start practicing, since we covered a much more broad range of subject matter than I had intended, we will only be learning a couple new things and then going over them and things from the previous lesson. Of course you are always welcome to ask questions as well. Tonight, we answer the question "how to tell if someone is asking a question". If you are asking a question, it is usually conveyed through facial expressions coupled with the hand gestures. Raising of the eyebrows and also "holding" the last part of the sign can convey that it is a question and not a statement." The sisters demonstrated a couple examples to give them an idea. There was much more movement in a question posed than while demonstrating a statement. It found the body language quite flat.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Togashi Saruko » Tue May 26, 2020 10:48 am

Saruko paid close attention, happy that her question from the previous lesson was being answered.

"Oooh... that make sense." They were miming how a question sounded like!
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Post by Seppun Dawei » Tue May 26, 2020 9:19 pm

Dawei, having quietly made his entrance, follows along, mimicking signs as he can.

The only problem with this in the field, he thinks, is that the motion would attract attention.

That
, as he realizes another, and covering a face would inhibit it, too.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Wed May 27, 2020 5:24 am

The women introduced and then practiced signs for wildlife with the group. It seemed important to discuss these signs as they were things the group encountered daily now. The talked about animals and plants and landmarks. They discussed how to alert others to dangerous situations and landscapes as well. Miuna got the group laughing with her demonstration of the word 'stag', using her hands to mimic antlers. When she used the hand sign for 'boar', someone suggested one could use this sign to insult another, which earned a few quiet snickers. Despite it being so abnormally cold, the gathering felt warm and inviting. Miuna stood and went to sit near Saruko, quietly watching her hand movements and gently making corrections when necessary. It wasn't often, though, as the Dragon woman learned quickly and efficiently. She smiled sweetly, catching the eye of the young Hanzou, delighted that he had turned up to this lesson after missing the first.

Aono addressed the group once more. "Since we have some here that were absent from the pervious lesson, let's have those that were present help them bridge the gap. Of course, I am still here to answer any questions so do not hesitate to ask." She smiled gently as she met the gaze of each attendee.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Seppun Dawei » Wed May 27, 2020 5:27 am

Dawei signs "The Stag," and he emphasizes the antler-sign, "greet you." Or he means to.

Thing is, "greet" and "eat" look a lot alike.

And a question occurs to him.

"What would happen is a person were to lose a finger, or a hand, with this?"
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Hanzou » Wed May 27, 2020 5:49 am

Hanzou watched closely and practiced what he saw, though he was certainly behind the others in general understanding. He was fascinated by the various animal signs and seemed to focus on them.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Wed May 27, 2020 6:34 am

Seppun Dawei wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 5:27 am
Dawei signs "The Stag," and he emphasizes the antler-sign, "greet you." Or he means to.

Thing is, "greet" and "eat" look a lot alike.

And a question occurs to him.

"What would happen is a person were to lose a finger, or a hand, with this?"
Greet and eat may look similar in writing, but signing them is very different. Aono looks to Dawei, commenting, "That's very good, Dawei, and a great lead into addressing the different clans. Let's practice the signs for each one." And they did. They worked on learning motions for all of the clan names. The Scorpion and Spider signs were the most entertaining, though they laughed at each other making Unicorn horns on their foreheads. Aono considered Dawei's other question a moment before answering, "Usually it is okay and the general point of what is said gets across, but if they can't also use their mouth then things can be difficult. Jin still has difficulties with his signing being limited to one hand. But that's also because he speaks which let's one read his lips for words. So it really depends on the situation. Thankfully, most people don't have to rely on only their body language to communicate."
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Hanzou watched closely and practiced what he saw, though he was certainly behind the others in general understanding. He was fascinated by the various animal signs and seemed to focus on them.
Now that they were discussing the clans and making their signs, Miuna sidled up beside Hanzou. She signed, "I like animals too," and Aono called, "Just ask Miuna about whatever you have interest in and she can show you the sign for it." Miuna made the sign for butterfly, curious if Hanzou would guess what it was.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Miyako » Wed May 27, 2020 6:43 am

"Hmm... making sure you get the right hand gesture for the type of question must be cause for some interesting moments, huh?" Miyako wondered aloud as she practiced the animal signs. "'Where is the mountain' is one thing, but in a more contemplative and philosophical setting 'why is the mountain' or some such could very well come up. Have you run into any strange or amusing questions being asked like that because of the mismatch in intent and what was signed?"
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Hanzou » Wed May 27, 2020 6:49 am

Shinjo Miuna wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 6:34 am
Miuna made the sign for butterfly, curious if Hanzou would guess what it was.
"Moth?" he asked. It looked like a bird, but he thought he saw that done differently.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Inga » Wed May 27, 2020 8:25 am

Inga signed different words.

Swamp, forest, tree, flies, water
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Shinjo Miuna » Wed May 27, 2020 8:29 am

Miyako wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 6:43 am
"Hmm... making sure you get the right hand gesture for the type of question must be cause for some interesting moments, huh?" Miyako wondered aloud as she practiced the animal signs. "'Where is the mountain' is one thing, but in a more contemplative and philosophical setting 'why is the mountain' or some such could very well come up. Have you run into any strange or amusing questions being asked like that because of the mismatch in intent and what was signed?"
Aono laughed. "There have definitely been some rather comically misinterpreted signs. There are quite a few that are close in execution but vastly different in meaning. Thats why it's so important to consider context as well to help you. There was one time when Miuna was very little that she was trying to ask me to play with her, but she kept confusing the signs for 'Play' and 'Yellow'. She kept getting so frustrated because I was signing "Yellow what?". Which as you can imagine was very confusing for us both." She chuckled, seeing the memory in her mind's eye.
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Wed May 27, 2020 6:49 am
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Wed May 27, 2020 6:34 am
Miuna made the sign for butterfly, curious if Hanzou would guess what it was.
"Moth?" he asked. It looked like a bird, but he thought he saw that done differently.
"Close enough!" Aono called out to him. Miuna smiled and made the symbol for Scorpion, which should be easy enough to interpret. She was just glad to be spending time with him, even if they weren't talking in depth. She studied him, appreciating the contrast of his dark hair and green eyes. Is this how people see me? She wondered.
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Wed May 27, 2020 8:25 am
Inga signed different words.

Swamp, forest, tree, flies, water
Aono came by and placed her hand upon Inga's shoulder. "Those are very good! You've got them down nicely." She smiled at the woman reassuringly.
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Re: [D5, EE] Give Me a Sign (open)

Post by Togashi Saruko » Wed May 27, 2020 8:36 am

Shinjo Miuna wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 5:24 am
Miuna stood and went to sit near Saruko, quietly watching her hand movements and gently making corrections when necessary. It wasn't often, though, as the Dragon woman learned quickly and efficiently. She smiled sweetly, catching the eye of the young Hanzou, delighted that he had turned up to this lesson after missing the first.
The perceptive woman noticed the glance and smile Miuna had in Hanzou's direction, so when Miuna's attention was returned to her again, Saruko signed (a little clumsily) love, her eyebrows raised to ask the silent question.
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